Analysis of Comments from an Indian Christian

I received some comments from someone claiming to be an Indian Christian1. I first thought that it was not worthy of a proper response, but after more thought I decided that unless the points are rebutted there is some chance of people might actually believe some of them to have merit. So here is what the poster had to say.

Writing this response seems somewhat surreal. I know so little about Hinduism compared to the many Indians that John must have met who could have pointed out his errors. I know that many extremist Christian groups tell their children not to talk to people outside their group, but I still find it surprising that he has not been informed more about Hinduism.

My name may sound confusing to many but the fact of the matter is that i am a INDIAN CHRISTIAN who has been in the u.k. for the past 5 years.I read your article saying that why don’t christian missionaries target the u.k.? and you said that in INDIA many people have a moral life. MY FRIEND, I would like to clarify certain things –
1. CHRISTANITY IS BY FAR THE BEST RELIGION ON EARTH AND INFINITELY SUPERIOR THAN HINDUISIM. When you accuse the whites of living a immoral life then i would say that it is because most of them are rich and it is only human that once a man/woman get rich that they forget about GOD(JESUS CHRIST).

Actually I did not mention race at all. If you go down to city centres you will see people of many races engaging in such behaviour. I don’t think it is necessarily true that when people are rich they leave religion behind. There are many rich religious people in the world, and many poor non-religious.

2. TALKING ABOUT MORALS OF HINDUS- CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IS INDIA’S POPULATION INCREASING BY A WHOPPING 20 MILLION EVERY YEAR WHEN IT IS SUCH A MORAL COUNTRY (AS HINDUS ARE 80%)OF THE POPULATION.

I am not sure why you equate population growth with morality, but OK for the sake of argument I will accept it as a measure. The country with the highest population growth is Libera ( Growth rate 4.836 %, religions traditional 40%, Christian 40%, Islam 20%). The list continues2:

  • Libera ( Growth rate 4.836 %; religions: traditional 40%, Christian 40%, Islam 20%)
  • United Arab Emirates (Growth rate 3.997 %; religions: Islam 96% (Sunni 80%, Shiite 16%), Christian, Hindu, and other 4%)
  • Gaza Strip (Growth rate 3.66 %; religions: Islam 98.7% (predominantly Sunni), Christian 0.7%, Jewish 0.6%)
  • Mayotte (Growth rate 3.617 %; religions: Islam 97%)
  • Burundi (Growth rate 3.593 ; religions: Roman Catholic 62%, indigenous 23%, Islam 10%, Protestant 5%)
  • Uganda (Growth rate: 3.572 %; religions: Roman Catholic 33%, Protestant 33%, Islam 16%, indigenous beliefs 18%)

So the top entries are four Islamic and two Christian countries. India comes 86th in the list with a population growth rate of 1.606 %.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT YOUR STUPID CONCEPT OF SALVATION IS THAT YOU DO ANY SIN AND GO AND TAKE A DIP IN THE GANGES AND YOU WILL BE SAVED. HOW IGNORANT AND STUPID THAT CAN BE?

OK, It is true that many Hindus believe that the Ganges can wash away sins. Lets compare that with the Christian belief that Jesus will forgive all sins (in some sects involving confession to a priest). At this point you have salvation. No further need to develop spiritual awareness. Whatever you do you are forgiven.

Though a Hindu may have sins washed away from the Ganges they still have to become spiritually aware, and to establish a relationship with God. There is still the duty of correct Dharma.

3. AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH UP WHEN U ACCUSE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES OF FORCED CONVERSIONS.MY GRANDFATHER WAS A HINDU PRIEST AND HE CONVERTED VOLUNTARY TO CHRISTANITY[sic] ALONG WITH HIS BROTHERS BECAUSE HE REALISED THE TRUTH.

I am not saying that all Hindus who converted to Christianity been force. There are, however, many cases of bribery and coercion3. Presumably they believe that God wants them to behave this way.


4. HINDUISIM SHOULD NOT BE CALLED A RELIGION IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE IT IS JUST A GROUPING OF LOCAL TEACHINGS MY SOME MEN.

If you are saying that it is not inspired by God then you are wrong. If you are saying that there are a variety of beliefs, then you are correct; there are Shaivites, Smarta, Vaishnavas, Shaktas and more. It is generally accepted that Hindus are everyone who accepts the Vedas. Some also see Jains, Sikhs and Buddhists as non-orthodox branches of Hinduism.

UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE IN THE WEST AND EUROPE CONSIDER IT TO BE A RELIGION. WHAT THEY DON’T KNOW THAT IT IS INSPIRED BY SATAN HIMSELF ,THAT’S WHY YOU PEOPLE WORSHIP THE SNAKE.

Surprisingly you know a lot less about Hinduism than many Westerners. Satan, is of course a construct of the Abrahamic religions. It was chiefly invented to denigrate and defame the the Yazidi religion4, but you and others tend to use it to denigrate anyone who’se belief differs from your own. Christians even use it to describe other Christian denominations5.

5. WHAT PEOPLE IN THE WEST DON’T KNOW IS THE REAL FACE OF HINDUISM . IT IS FULL OF BLACK MAGIC,WITCHCRAFT,SORCERY,IDOL WORSHIP( U IDIOTS SAY THAT THERE ARE 360 MILLION GODS AND GODDESSES) HOW STUPID THAT CAN BE!

Well, firstly I think the number you are looking for is 330 million. Often quoted as the number of Gods in Hinduism this is a mistranslation of “33 types of God”6. Also Hinduism sees the multiple Gods as aspects of the one true God. This is not dissimilar to the Christian Trinity or the Jewish Kabbalha, as I described in another article.


6. AND U HINDUS ARE THE MOST SUPERSTITIOUS AND ORTHODOX PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PH.D’S BUT DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU STILL ARE BACKWARD MINDED. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U STILL TREAT WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN THE MAJORITY OF INDIA?

Reasons of society, the same as in many African and South American Christian countries and many middle eastern Islamic states. It is not enshrined in the religion as in Islam.

OR YOU STILL FOLLOW A 1000 SUPERSTITIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE.

Hinduism has many ceremonies around daily activities designed to keep you in touch with the spiritual nature of things. To help you think of God in all you do. It is true that some people forget this purpose and see them as mere superstitions, but this is no fault of Hinduism.

OR WHY STILL CASTEISM IS WIDELY PRACTISED IN INDIA , IN WHICH BRAHMAN(THE HINDU PRIEST) IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUPERIOR THAN OTHERS.

Many Hindu groups now reject caste. The Mahabharata supports this

When a pious nature and pious deeds are noticeable in even a Sudra, he should, according to my opinion, be held superior to a person of the three regenerate classes. Neither birth, nor the purificatory rites, nor learning, nor offspring, can be regarded as grounds for conferring upon one the regenerate status. Verily, conduct is the only ground. All Brahmanas in this world are Brahmanas in consequence of conduct. A Sudra, if he is established on good conduct, is regarded as possessed of the status of a Brahmana. The status of Brahma, O auspicious lady, is equal wherever it exists. Even this is my opinion. He, indeed, is a Brahmana in whom the status of Brahma exists,–that condition which is bereft of attributes and which has no stain attached to it. (Mahabharata CXLIII).

Now many schools allow Dalits as priests, again affirming it is nature and not birth that determine position7.

7. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT U HINDUS HATE THE TRUE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS(CHRISTANITY,ISLAM AND JUDAISIM) INSPIRED BY THE ONE TRUE GOD FROM THE CORE OF YOUR HEART.THAT IS EVIDENT OF THE VOILENT KILLINGS OF 6,000 MUSLIMS IN GUJRAT IN 2002 AND THE CONTINOUS ATTACKS AND KILLING OF CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES IN INDIA.

Of course killing is wrong, but look at all the massacres carried out by Christians. See my “Cathars from a Hindu Perspective” for details of one of the many masacres. Some Christians still practice terrorism today8.

ALSO U DISCRIMINATE SO MUCH AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS IN INDIA ,BY DESTROYING THE LIVES OF MANY THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIAN STUDENTS THROUGH YOUR BLACK MAGIC WHICH IS INTEGRAL IN HINDUISIM.
8. IT REALLY SADDENS ME TO SEE THAT IN THE WEST AND EUROPE CHRISTIANS ARE GOING AGAINST THE MUSLIMS -WHO HAPPEN TO BE THEIR OWN YOUNGER BROTHERS .IF U SEE AT THE RICH ABRAHAMIC HERITAGE MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS SHARE.

I think you will find that whereas Inclusivist religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism get on, and can respect tolerant members of other religions, the basic exclusivity of Abrahamic religions breeds hatred and disagreement. Different Islamic sects fight each other, as do different Christian denominations. It is strange that you readily accept groups that call for eachother’s death, but reject those who accept difference.


9. IN REALITY IT IS U HINDUS WHO ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WHO HATE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS FROM THE CORE OF THEIR HEART. I JUST WISH THAT PEOPLE IN THE WEST AND EUROPE AND IN THE ARAB COUNTRIES REALISE THIS AND ATLEAST FOR THE TIME BEING FORGET THEIR DIFFERENCES

I have never seen a Hindu express the hatred for a Buddhist, or a Buddhist for a Hindu that you express. Note the “at least for the time being”… in other words you will want to convert or kill them once they have helped you.

AND JOIN HANDS TO STOP YOU HINDUS FROM COMING TO THE WEST AND ARAB COUNTRIES.BY PUTTING A COMPLETE BAN ON HINDU IMMIGRATION TO U.S.A,CANADA,EUROPE AND ALL ARAB COUNTRIES SO THAT THE RELIGION OF BLACK MAGIC,WITCHCRAFT,SORCERY i.e. HINDUISIM DOES NOT SPREAD ITS EVIL POISON IN THESE LANDS OF ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS.

What a world you want. Perhaps you should go and live in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Oh wait, they don’t tolerate Christians… and the USA and Europe are pretty fearful of Muslims at the moment.

10. IF SOMEONE IS READING THIS THEN THIS MIGHT SOUND TO YOU A LITTLE HARSH ON HINDUISIM BUT TRUST ME THIS IS THE REAL TRUTH AND FACE OF HINDUISIM WHICH UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE WEST ,EUROPE AND ARAB COUNTRIES DO NOT REALISE. FOR CHRISTIANS , GO AND READ THE BOOK OF ROMANS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CHAPTER ONE AND U WILL REALISE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. AND BEING AN INDIAN CHRISTIAN I KNOW HOW BLOOD THIRSTY HINDUS ARE WHENEVER THEY SEE A INDIAN CHRISTIAN DOING WELL IN LIFE.THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST HINDUS BUT THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH WHICH I HAVE REALISED IN THE WORLD. IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED THEN U CAN ALWAYS CONTACT ME ON MY E-MAIL WHICH IS vondra_guy@yahoo.co.uk

Maybe people should see how Hindus go out of their way to show respect to people of other religions. Even the orkut “Ban Christian Missionaries” group says

WE LOVE CHRISTIANS,JESUS IS LOVE AND HE WILL BE WITH US LIKE A GURU. BUT HATE THE ACTIVITIES OF CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES.

They hate the use of bribery and threats, and the encouraging of divisions and hatred, but show the religion itself great respect. How would God like you to act? Like the “Indian Christian” or like the many Indian Hindus?

This article may be updated as I receive advice and information from the many helpful people in the orkut “Converts to Hinduism” group. I will probably respond to the poster’s second message later.

(24-11-2007 – I have decided not to answer this second post at the moment. The reasons are given in the post “Why I will not respond to the second ‘Christian’ post soon“.

I have tried a slightly different layout for this post, with most references at the bottom rather than having so many inline links. Is this better or worse (it takes a lot longer!)

References

1 These comments were made to my post “Why don’t Christian missionaries target Britain rather than India?”. I put a brief reply to the first comment, and later received a second comment in reply.
2 Source of population statistics: nationmaster.com. Religion statistics sourced from infoplease.com and nationmaster.com.
3 There are many cases of forced conversion. Many Christians see bribery, threats, etc. as valid means of conversion and oppose laws that seek to ban these practices.
4 See Yazidi on Wikipedia.
5 For example www.jesus-is-savior.com says: “Pope John Paul II was a minister of Satan, a false prophet”.
6 See wikipedia entry for Deva.
7 “Lately, the Vishva Hindu Parishad has managed to get even the most traditionalist religious leaders on the anti-untouchability platform, so that they invite harijans to Vedic schools and train them as priests” from Hinduism today.
8 See Wikipedia Christian Terrorism article.

23 responses to “Analysis of Comments from an Indian Christian

  1. sir let me please say that this guy is completely brain washed and he is really jeolous that hinduism in growing faster throghout the world.please ask him if he is a keralite…

  2. AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH UP WHEN U ACCUSE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES OF FORCED CONVERSIONS.MY GRANDFATHER WAS A HINDU PRIEST AND HE CONVERTED VOLUNTARY TO CHRISTANITY[sic] ALONG WITH HIS BROTHERS BECAUSE HE REALISED THE TRUTH..

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    i dont think that is right..so far for the last 50years nothing is reported like that.

  3. AND U HINDUS ARE THE MOST SUPERSTITIOUS AND ORTHODOX PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PH.D’S BUT DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU STILL ARE BACKWARD MINDED. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U STILL TREAT WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN THE

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    christian missionaries main teaching to converts is that hinduism is a supertitious and backward minded religion.this guy failed to study his religion and looked west for becoming forwardmind or to become trendy.

    we hindus treat women as goddess.indian president is a female.most of the political leaders are female.have u heard of mata amruthanandamayi????she has got countless devotees in india and abroad.in 18th century some crazy people treated women like that..in which century r u mr.singh????…it is still there in islam.pentacost christians here are moreover like that only.so u still feel so???

  4. WHY STILL CASTEISM IS WIDELY PRACTISED IN INDIA , IN WHICH BRAHMAN(THE HINDU PRIEST) IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUPERIOR THAN OTHERS
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    casteism is not practiced in india,its hinduism which we practice.if you are an pentacost,you cant enter catholic church or u r aglican ..you cant enter others churh.if u r sunni u cant enter mosque of shia.we hindus do go to same temples.there is no such discrimination for hindus.and casteism is not said in hindu texts.it doest not exist in this century.BRAHMIN means one who knows brahma or god..normal hindus must rise to brahmin to know god.if one born in brahmin family will not be a brahmin.the ultimate aim of hindus is to attain brahma or beome brahmin.you oo will be a brahmin if u know jesus christ but ur language says that u r not living according to jesus.

  5. CHRISTANITY,ISLAM AND JUDAISIM) INSPIRED BY THE ONE TRUE GOD FROM THE CORE OF YOUR HEART.THAT IS EVIDENT OF THE VOILENT KILLINGS OF 6,000 MUSLIMS IN GUJRAT IN 2002 AND THE CONTINOUS ATTACKS AND KILLING OF CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES IN INDIA. _____________________________________________

    hindus are highly tollerant.gujrat killings were the only black mark for india.but look at this:Mar 12, ’93 | Mumbai 13 blasts kill 257 and injure 1,400
    Feb 14, ’98 | Coimbatore 13 blasts in 11 locations kill 46, injure 200
    Aug 25, ’03| Mumbai At Gateway of India and Zaveri Bazar kill 50, injure 150+
    Oct 29, ’05 | Delhi 3 blasts kill 62, injure more than 155
    Mar 7, ’06 | Varanasi Two blasts kill 28, injure over 100
    July 11, ’06 | Mumbai 7 blasts on trains kill 209, injure over 700
    Sep 8, ’06 | Malegoan 2 blasts kill 38, injure over 125
    Aug 26, ’07 | Hyderabad 2 blasts kill 42, injure over 50 BLASTS
    Nov 23 ‘ 07| Uttar Pradesh 6 blasts kill 14

    these all and many were done to hindus.no one says that.when hindu brothers of gujrath were under threat,rss team have done that (but sorry for that sholud not be happend)only one such incident.

    in the matter of christian missionaries,they sholud be brutally tease them and we should make fun of them for their acts with the money flowing from white house.they are very cunning and bribes poor hindus .bad on christians part that they cant influence with the teaching of jesus to indians.brother,hinduism has everything that bible or quran has.why do indians need a pirated copy if we have original cd with us??

  6. more over,north east state of nagaland has ‘NLFT’which is a terrorist group of christians under baptist church which kills all non christians.they are all converted and now they lost their identity and rich past.they abandond all hindu puja’s.they killed more than what islam terrorists killed in kashmir this year.so the son’s of ever loving jesus christ..what do u say for these??..good christians in india are dead when they started conversion.now they started becoming in tollerent as they cant convert any.they just need numbers.still all rich and upper caste hindus are left which still makes 80%hindus in india.you cant convert them mr.singh..they are well aware and educated.

  7. CHRISTIANS IN INDIA ,BY DESTROYING THE LIVES OF MANY THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIAN STUDENTS THROUGH YOUR BLACK MAGIC WHICH IS INTEGRAL IN HINDUISIM
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    nothing of that sort has happend so far..respected chris sir is aware about india and you cant say all false things to him to change his mind.BLACK MAGIC IS NOT INTEGRAL IN HINDUISM,it is atharva veda and no one practice that because it is the toughest and evil.if there is some one in this world to do it,it will be your jesus christ/allah/lord brahma because god is the only person who can practice adarva veda..

    • Have you read the atharva veda?

      I dont think even atharva veda is black magic.

      The whole concept of magic or rather Magick is a concept which the priests of the catholic church created to persecute those who did not agree with them.

      These converted christians believe so much in magic than hindus themselves do. If they fail in their life, due to their own effort or non effort, then they tend to blame black magic.

      I am really surprised to see that there are people with such medieval mindsets even today!

  8. IN REALITY IT IS U HINDUS WHO ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WHO HATE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS FROM THE CORE OF THEIR HEART. I JUST WISH THAT PEOPLE IN THE WEST AND EUROPE AND IN THE ARAB COUNTRIES REALISE THIS AND ATLEAST FOR THE TIME BEING FORGET THEIR DIFFERENCES ——————————————————————————————————-
    if hindus hate non hindus then will there be a secular india???????will there be 18%islam and 2%christianism and we dont say anything for your practice.we respects all.all religion leads to god.

    “”””””LOOK AT THIS CHRIS and ask him to make brother hood among christians first then we can go to arab and all”””””.

    http://georgiabulletin.org/world/2007/11/15/WORLD-3/

    THIS HAPPEND THIS YEAR.ASK HIM TO COME TO INDIA AND REALIZE.NOW SAY IF HINDUS ARE TREATING OTHERS SO.NO MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN WILL SAY LIKE THAT.

    its unfortunnate and i condemn.really made me sda brother.

  9. chris sorry for again replying to him.but as a native indian i just made him understand.chris please say your feedback from my reply’s to my email or orkut.god bless all.

  10. very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
    Idetrorce

  11. Religion has caused more bloodshed and death. I am simply a follower
    of Christ, because he is totally different than any other god. He is unique
    in his birth, death and by resurrection. No other god has declared with
    such an authority ” I am the way, the truth and life”. I strongly tell
    others with due respect to learn of Jesus Christ and to make their own
    decision. It is not forced conversion. Being a Christin is the personal
    relationship with Jesus Christ.

  12. A. S. Mathew Says: No other god has declared with such an authority ” I am the way, the truth and life”.

    Actually I would agree with you here, because there is only one God. He gave similar messages in the form of Krishna:

    “I am the source of all spiritual & material worlds. Everything emanates from me. ” [GITA 10:8]

    “Those who worship other gods and those who worship them with faith, are actually worshipping me. I am the receiver of all devotion ” GITA 9:23]

    “Even a man with worst Karmas will not perish if he becomes my devotee [GITA 9:30,31]

    In the form of Shiva he says:

    “I am I, I am the other (the supreme one), I am Brahman, I am the source (of all), I am also the Guru of all the worlds, I am all the worlds, That I am.
    I alone am, I have attained perfection, I am pure, I am the supreme, I remain always, I am He, I am eternal, I am pure.
    I am the true knowledge (Vijnana), I am the special one, I am Soma, I am the all. I am the auspicious one, I am free from sorrow, I am consciousness, I am the impartial one.
    I am devoid of honour and dishonour, I am without attributes, I am Shiva, I am free from duality and non-duality, I am free from the pairs (of opposites), I am He. [Maitreya Upanishad]”

    Christianity can be a way, though its exclusivity can lead to hatred, as we have seen in the various comments here. Hinduism in my opinion gives a clearer, more explicit an inclusive path to enlightenment.

  13. A.S matthew’s response highlights a fundamental defect in the christian religion.

    “Being a Christin is the personal
    relationship with Jesus Christ.”

    Matthews post is indicative of one who sees a division between God and Man, hence this “relationship” talk. In Sanatana Dharma, Man is actually a Divine Godhead yet to realize his true person. Thus there is no division and no talk of “personal relationships.” There is only talk of absolute unity.

  14. I’m Christian but don’t trust the faith in India. You’ll find that the church in the UK does not trust the Indian church either and is only seeking self interest to fill it’s vocations and pews in the cloister. I believe it is seeped in sorcery and witchcraft from it’s strong connection with Hinduism if not practicing even more evil than the Hindus. I went to a place of retreat called Divine Retreat Center in Kerala who’s innocence has not been proved despite the final verdict. But if you look carefully at one of the preachers Augustine Vallooran you will see sorcery and witchcraft at work. You will see him changing his appearance to impress or captivate the public during Mass. He changes from fat to thin dark to light right before your very eyes. It’s certain he is fake and his beliefs not Christian- maybe Hindu or Satanism? It’s quite bewildering!

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  16. sati,gods destryoing others wives,being jealous of humans,destryoing the wives of rishis and munis,prostitutes in heaven-apsaras send to destroy good men by so called goda-thse are the soo called moralities of hinduism.They chriticise western ppl, but if u read their stories there gods are the most immoral,adultrating,jealous-fellows who sends heavenly prostitutes to destroy goodmen-Hinduism is fully immoral-tom.

  17. I am only able to find one reference to a prostitute going to heaven, which I find a moving story:

    There was the house of a harlot in front. Seeing the constant concourse of men in the prostitute’s house, the sanyasin one day called her, saying’’You are a great sinner. You sin day and night. Oh, miserable will be your lot in your next life’’. The poor prostitute became extremely sorry for her misdeeds, and with genuine inward repentance she prayed to god beseeching forgiveness. But the prostitution was her profession, she could not adopt any other means of earning her livelihood. And so, whenever her flesh sinned, she always reproached herself with greater contrition of heart and prayed to god for more and more forgiveness.

    The sanyasin saw that his advice had apparently produced no effect upon her and started counting the number of people visiting her every day.

    He did it by putting one pebble stone for every customer in front of her house. In course of years it became a big heap.He chided her now and then showing the heap of stones/her sins. Now she started praying more intensely asking for forgiveness. The final day came. By rare co incidence both the sanyasin and the prostitute died on the same day.

    The messengers of Yama (God of death) took the sanyasin to hell and the prostitute to the heaven!! The sanyasin was furious to see this and demanded for explanation. The messengers laughed at him told hi,m’’You passed your life in external show as a sanyasin. Your heart never sincerely yearned for god.You spent more time in counting the sins of others. But this poor prostitute earnestly prayed to god day and night, though her body sinned all the while. She was pure in heart. You were not pure in mind/heart.

    The apsara (not prostitutes) represent sensual distraction from spiritual advance.

    Gods being jealous of humans? They are morality stories. Compare that to God which says “I am a jealous God” when referring to other Gods that Christianity denies exists!

    If you really read the shastras, rather than just copying and pasting someone elses out of context misquotes, you read without understanding.

  18. Worship the lord Krishna eveything will be allright.

  19. It is a complex issue and race belongs in the dialogue, but we need to understand that race is not the problem. ,

  20. Regarding Gujarat: The number of those killed is inflated and is False propaganda much publicised, of so called secular, and Muslim/Anti hindu People.The numbers of those [total] deaths is at about 1,200.This includes muslims killed by Hindus,Hindus killed by Muslims[including the 58 men ,women and children[about 19]burnt in a rail coachby muslims,and hindus killed by the Police for the arson/rioting].Most gruesome Stories of rape etc., were found to untrue by the CBI.The principal activist for the rights of Muslim victims was found to have fabricated many of the affidavits of the victims.
    The Anti christian Kandhamal riots was in response to a Hindu spiritual leader[acharya] being killed in his ashram [by Christians /Maoists.The one in Mangalore was in response to Christian blasphemous preaching/writings about Hindu scriptures/puranas,and thier Gods.
    Even if Hinduism did not contain monistic[Advaitic]teachings,what is wrong with having many gods[whatevernumber].?what is so sacrosanct about the number:1.?

  21. Ragav Sasthiri

    “6. AND U HINDUS ARE THE MOST SUPERSTITIOUS AND ORTHODOX PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PH.D’S BUT DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU STILL ARE BACKWARD MINDED. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U STILL TREAT WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN THE MAJORITY OF INDIA?”

    I think a better answer to this would be the fact that India is one of the only countries with a denominational less rate of rape and the mother worship as well as providing divine aspect to women happened only in Hinduism.

    Ironically, it is Christianity which does not even see woman as an equal being to man since Eve was created from Adam’s rib.

    On the social scale, USA, a christian country, became independent in 1776 but voting rights for women was granted only in 1920.

    Do you know when it happened in India?
    There was never a point of time in which the women were not allowed to vote.

    In fact, Indira Gandhi became the prime minister of India in 1966 just 19 years after independence and 16 years after the constitution came into existence.

    Don’t even compare christian views on woman to the mother worshiping culture of India that venerates woman.

  22. “6. AND U HINDUS ARE THE MOST SUPERSTITIOUS AND ORTHODOX PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PH.D’S BUT DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU STILL ARE BACKWARD MINDED. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U STILL TREAT WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN THE MAJORITY OF INDIA?”

    I think a better answer to this would be the fact that India is one of the only countries with a denominational less rate of rape and the mother worship as well as providing divine aspect to women happened only in Hinduism.

    Ironically, it is Christianity which does not even see woman as an equal being to man since Eve was created from Adam’s rib.

    On the social scale, USA, a christian country, became independent in 1776 but voting rights for women was granted only in 1920.

    Do you know when it happened in India?
    There was never a point of time in which the women were not allowed to vote.

    In fact, Indira Gandhi became the prime minister of India in 1966 just 19 years after independence and 16 years after the constitution came into existence.

    Don’t even compare christian views on woman to the mother worshiping culture of India that venerates woman.

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